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		<title>By: dannyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>dannyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 21:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mikey,

What an awesome response, thanks!

I could maybe write a whole entry as to how I tip.  The basics is 20%, but I&#039;m not rigorous about it.  I figure it is about $2 per $10, with a bit of flexibility to get to a round number.  One thing to consider, especially if you&#039;re a 20% tipper, is that you&#039;re probably looking at the after-tax total, which means you&#039;re tipping high if you&#039;re going by that.  So, I shoot for 20%, and am happy to come down on that to get to a round number, and if sales tax is also a factor.

In Thailand there is no formal rule about tipping, but you round up to the largest bill you&#039;re willing to spend.  By not fretting over the change, you &quot;save face&quot; and also give the service employees something to work with.

At a bar, I shoot for $1/drink, even though I usually get just beer or whiskey: I know that bartenders work long late messy hours for tips, dealing with drunks and other bullsh1t.  At a taqueria or a coffee shop I&#039;ll drop my change in the bucket, or toss in a buck if I&#039;m feeling generous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mikey,</p>
<p>What an awesome response, thanks!</p>
<p>I could maybe write a whole entry as to how I tip.  The basics is 20%, but I&#8217;m not rigorous about it.  I figure it is about $2 per $10, with a bit of flexibility to get to a round number.  One thing to consider, especially if you&#8217;re a 20% tipper, is that you&#8217;re probably looking at the after-tax total, which means you&#8217;re tipping high if you&#8217;re going by that.  So, I shoot for 20%, and am happy to come down on that to get to a round number, and if sales tax is also a factor.</p>
<p>In Thailand there is no formal rule about tipping, but you round up to the largest bill you&#8217;re willing to spend.  By not fretting over the change, you &#8220;save face&#8221; and also give the service employees something to work with.</p>
<p>At a bar, I shoot for $1/drink, even though I usually get just beer or whiskey: I know that bartenders work long late messy hours for tips, dealing with drunks and other bullsh1t.  At a taqueria or a coffee shop I&#8217;ll drop my change in the bucket, or toss in a buck if I&#8217;m feeling generous.</p>
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		<title>By: Mikey Aye</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mikey Aye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jul 2007 20:51:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan The Man ~~~~~~~~~

Share The Wealth!

Charity begins at home!

What is right and what is wrong?

Like you, I enjoy tipping whether the waiter/server is in a classy place and may make more on tips than I do at my regular job or if he/she is a low-budget kid in a low-class taqueria. They&#039;ll get my tip.

Growing up, even while as young as 8-9 years old and into adulthood, for some reason I always read Ann Landers in my local paper. Ann was a stickler for tipping and suggested the 15% tip.

After living with my wife Dana for the past 22 years I have escalated to leaving a 20% tip if the service is good simply because that is what SHE does and it kinda made sense to leave an extra tip for extra good service.

On the other hand if the service is shitty I&#039;ll leave a lesser tip or maybe just a buck. I have been the victim of shitty food and even shittier service but I have always left something and not just the one-cent slap in the face. Sometimes not too much more, but always something.

So, DannyMan, you wrote a LOT about tip[ping but failed to mention your percentage or calculation. What do YOU leave????????

Something else - if the food is WAY overpriced I&#039;ll lower the tip because I think I am getting ripped off as it is. For instance, maybe a typical breakfast costs $7.50. Okay, that&#039;s fair and I&#039;ll leave a tip of $1.50 (20%.)

But when I order a milk with that breakfast and the glass of milk comes with a $2.50 price tag I flinch. The milk I buy at Safeway costs $3.50 a gallon and I *know* the milk at Denny&#039;s costs half that. So them basstridz are charging me $2.50 for TWENTY-CENTS worth of milk.

Phukk Dat, bro!

I will not leave an additional 50-cents for the tip on that milk. The same would apply to a bottle of wine at a steak house where I am charged $25 for a bottle of wine that sells for $12.00 in the store where I sometimes work.

I like to tip but when they screw me on a milk I don&#039;t pony up the extra.

Izzat cool with the populous? Why should I make that 20-cent glass of milk cost me a fat $3???

WWDD??????????

(What Would Danny Do????????)

I was eating at a place one evening - a diner/BBQ joint where I ate about four nights a week when I was patrolling the city in a cop car. It was cheap but good and the waitresses sometimes gave it up easy - which is often WHY cops flock to a certain restaurant in town. While eating I watched one waitress pick up the check and cash that a guy had left on the counter - she counted it, saw that it was exact change, and yelled, &quot;That little fucker stiffed me!!!&quot; And she charged out the door and tracked him down, yelled at him and came back in with a couple of bucks.

I never knew if maybe the guy didn&#039;t tip her because the food and service was crappy (probably not the case in this place) or if he forgot or maybe he just doesn&#039;t tip but it was weird to see the waitress&#039;s reaction and watch the scene play out.

All the time I was thinking like you - hey, there are no guarantees or promises. I think I would have just figured the guy was not required to tip me - sometimes ya lose.

Anyway, tips were important that night. I sure never forgot to tip in that place.

So yes - TIP WELL when you can. Share the wealth Follow the Rules Of Dan and you will find that, like Karma, things will get back to you.

And you won&#039;t have some frizzy-haired blond cranker-bitch chasing you through the parking lot.

SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MikeyA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan The Man ~~~~~~~~~</p>
<p>Share The Wealth!</p>
<p>Charity begins at home!</p>
<p>What is right and what is wrong?</p>
<p>Like you, I enjoy tipping whether the waiter/server is in a classy place and may make more on tips than I do at my regular job or if he/she is a low-budget kid in a low-class taqueria. They&#8217;ll get my tip.</p>
<p>Growing up, even while as young as 8-9 years old and into adulthood, for some reason I always read Ann Landers in my local paper. Ann was a stickler for tipping and suggested the 15% tip.</p>
<p>After living with my wife Dana for the past 22 years I have escalated to leaving a 20% tip if the service is good simply because that is what SHE does and it kinda made sense to leave an extra tip for extra good service.</p>
<p>On the other hand if the service is shitty I&#8217;ll leave a lesser tip or maybe just a buck. I have been the victim of shitty food and even shittier service but I have always left something and not just the one-cent slap in the face. Sometimes not too much more, but always something.</p>
<p>So, DannyMan, you wrote a LOT about tip[ping but failed to mention your percentage or calculation. What do YOU leave????????</p>
<p>Something else &#8211; if the food is WAY overpriced I&#8217;ll lower the tip because I think I am getting ripped off as it is. For instance, maybe a typical breakfast costs $7.50. Okay, that&#8217;s fair and I&#8217;ll leave a tip of $1.50 (20%.)</p>
<p>But when I order a milk with that breakfast and the glass of milk comes with a $2.50 price tag I flinch. The milk I buy at Safeway costs $3.50 a gallon and I *know* the milk at Denny&#8217;s costs half that. So them basstridz are charging me $2.50 for TWENTY-CENTS worth of milk.</p>
<p>Phukk Dat, bro!</p>
<p>I will not leave an additional 50-cents for the tip on that milk. The same would apply to a bottle of wine at a steak house where I am charged $25 for a bottle of wine that sells for $12.00 in the store where I sometimes work.</p>
<p>I like to tip but when they screw me on a milk I don&#8217;t pony up the extra.</p>
<p>Izzat cool with the populous? Why should I make that 20-cent glass of milk cost me a fat $3???</p>
<p>WWDD??????????</p>
<p>(What Would Danny Do????????)</p>
<p>I was eating at a place one evening &#8211; a diner/BBQ joint where I ate about four nights a week when I was patrolling the city in a cop car. It was cheap but good and the waitresses sometimes gave it up easy &#8211; which is often WHY cops flock to a certain restaurant in town. While eating I watched one waitress pick up the check and cash that a guy had left on the counter &#8211; she counted it, saw that it was exact change, and yelled, &#8220;That little fucker stiffed me!!!&#8221; And she charged out the door and tracked him down, yelled at him and came back in with a couple of bucks.</p>
<p>I never knew if maybe the guy didn&#8217;t tip her because the food and service was crappy (probably not the case in this place) or if he forgot or maybe he just doesn&#8217;t tip but it was weird to see the waitress&#8217;s reaction and watch the scene play out.</p>
<p>All the time I was thinking like you &#8211; hey, there are no guarantees or promises. I think I would have just figured the guy was not required to tip me &#8211; sometimes ya lose.</p>
<p>Anyway, tips were important that night. I sure never forgot to tip in that place.</p>
<p>So yes &#8211; TIP WELL when you can. Share the wealth Follow the Rules Of Dan and you will find that, like Karma, things will get back to you.</p>
<p>And you won&#8217;t have some frizzy-haired blond cranker-bitch chasing you through the parking lot.</p>
<p>SEE YA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!<br />
MikeyA</p>
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